Toy swivels
Toy Swivels are swivels that are found on small cheap toy rigs. I do have to hand it to them, they do use some great power words to describe these cheesy excuses of swivel. The toy swivels are usually homemade with light bearings if any at all. And the seals they use are nothing more than China wheel bearing seals. If wheel bearing seals work so good for water, and see boat trailers on the side of the road with Burnup axles. One other factor of a toy swivel, is extremely small water Course. A small water course will prevent you from driling very deep, and take much much longer to wash the cuttings out of the borehole. Some people say the smaller water course does not matter, let me give you an example.
It would be light washing your car off, that was very muddy with a water hose the size of a coffee straw. The larger the drill pipe and swivel, the faster and smoother everything goes when drilling.
eBay toy rigs
In most cases the toy rigs are a joke, it all goes back as to the old saying" if it sounds too good to be true" guess what it is.
The problem is people have needs, but not much money. Some of the salesman play on people that are in such a need of a water well, but have no way or funds to get one. One thing to watch out for is a salesman who is telling you what to buy and what you need, but personally himself has never ever operated a drilling rig or completed a successful water well. Buying Drilling Equipment from someone who has no drilling experience is is sure way to failure. Some drilling rig manufacturers have inexperienced salesmen trying to sell you equipment ,that just two weeks ago they were working for mcdonalds asking you if you needed cheese on your number one.
This is scary considering you're fixing to make one of the largest purchases of your life possibly.
Toy Swivels are swivels that are found on small cheap toy rigs. I do have to hand it to them, they do use some great power words to describe these cheesy excuses of swivel. The toy swivels are usually homemade with light bearings if any at all. And the seals they use are nothing more than China wheel bearing seals. If wheel bearing seals work so good for water, and see boat trailers on the side of the road with Burnup axles. One other factor of a toy swivel, is extremely small water Course. A small water course will prevent you from driling very deep, and take much much longer to wash the cuttings out of the borehole. Some people say the smaller water course does not matter, let me give you an example.
It would be light washing your car off, that was very muddy with a water hose the size of a coffee straw. The larger the drill pipe and swivel, the faster and smoother everything goes when drilling.
eBay toy rigs
In most cases the toy rigs are a joke, it all goes back as to the old saying" if it sounds too good to be true" guess what it is.
The problem is people have needs, but not much money. Some of the salesman play on people that are in such a need of a water well, but have no way or funds to get one. One thing to watch out for is a salesman who is telling you what to buy and what you need, but personally himself has never ever operated a drilling rig or completed a successful water well. Buying Drilling Equipment from someone who has no drilling experience is is sure way to failure. Some drilling rig manufacturers have inexperienced salesmen trying to sell you equipment ,that just two weeks ago they were working for mcdonalds asking you if you needed cheese on your number one.
This is scary considering you're fixing to make one of the largest purchases of your life possibly.
Toy Rig Test
If the drill pipe is less than 2" it is a Toy rig.
If the Water swivel has no weight rating, it is a Toy rig with a toy swivel.
If the drill pipe is not Heat treated tool joint connections, it is a Toy Rig.
If the salesman descripes the Rig with Fancy power words that are not industrie standards, you have a Toy Rig.
If the Engine looks like a name brand , but engine manufactures name never appears in item description. Many Toy rigs use CHEAP CHINA KNOCK OFF ENGINES, Made to look like honda, but are trash after one tank of gas, you have a Toy Rig.
If you see a toy rig drill rating for 600ft, but drill pipe is china plumbing pipe with 1" ID water flow , which is impossible to do, you have a Toy Rig.
If the drill bits are flat bar welded to a pipe nipple, you have a toy rig.
If mud pump is just a cheap china water pump with a aluminum housing that the sand will wear out in 20 minites you have a toy rig.
If the total toy rig complete with all the bells and whistles cost less than 200ft of real 2 3/8" drill pipe, you have a toy rig. ( real mayhew Jr drill pipe 1800.00 per 100ft ).
If your Wife says to you "Looks to Good to be true," she is right, you have a toy rig.
If the rig is for sale on ebay, good chance it is a toy rig.
If the manufacture does not rent or do in person hands on demo, it is a toy rig. Most of these guys only cash checks, the last place they want to be is have you see it drill in person. Thats why 99.99 % of toy rigs are sold and shipped Via the internet, they never do a live demo with real customers.
Do toy rigs work?
Only in perfect condtions. Do you have a perfect life and perfect land? If so try one.
Places when they do work: Soft sand, and water is only 100ft or less. Drilling over 100ft, you need to be a 1/2 space enginer and 1/2 Redneck welder Jerry rigger. Remember the shallow and soft sand drilling these rigs will work. The deeper you go and the harder the formations, the less chance you have, unless you buy a better portable rig.
WE do sell plans and parts for DIY toy rigs. I just want people to know what they need, so no one gets in over there head. I have known men who drilled 350ft with toy rigs, but only after re-welding, adding up grades and loosing 100s of ft of drill pipe before getting enough experience to finish the job. I do not want to crush your dream of drilling your own well. Just want to inform you. Drilling is not to hard, with good equipment, but shotie china junk is hard to do it with. Better portable drilling rigs with better pipe and swivel makes the job easy. Drilling with substandard toy rigs is like walking on rice paper. it can be done, but not without a few tares.
Make sure you're getting a real drilling rig. ( Say no to Toy rigs ) Remember if you don't get a real swivel, and real drill pipe you do not have a real drilling rig. You have what I call a toy rig. Toy rigs will have toy pipe and a toy swivel. What makes a toy swivel? The best definition for a toy rig ,I can give is a small or tiny water course swivel & pipe. Cheap China wheel bearing seals, not the good Chevron oil field packing. Also your swivel must have weight ratings. Your swivel weight rating will tell you how deep the drill will drill. If your drill pipe ways 50 pounds per 10 foot joint. And you have 10 joints, that equals 500 pounds per 100 feet. If you're swivel weight rating is 1000 pounds, then your swivel will be rated for 200 feet. This is why you want the largest swivel weight rating you can afford. And not just wait ratings you need a large water course flow. The larger the water course the more flow. The more flow the deeper and faster you can drill was less problems and not get your pipes stuck. Small water course equal slow drill speeds, slow penetration, and makes it easier to lose or get your pipe stuck What is the best drill pipe? Drill pipe is the second most important component on drilling rig other than the swivel. There's many different options and details that you can change, have are not have. Please do not skimp on the swivel or drill pipe. You must have a quality USA swivel and quality USA drill pipe if you expected drilling daily for money. The best thing about having a larger flow swivel and larger flow drill pipe, you can get by with less pump PSI and still get the same job done as small pipe and a larger mud pump.
If the drill pipe is less than 2" it is a Toy rig.
If the Water swivel has no weight rating, it is a Toy rig with a toy swivel.
If the drill pipe is not Heat treated tool joint connections, it is a Toy Rig.
If the salesman descripes the Rig with Fancy power words that are not industrie standards, you have a Toy Rig.
If the Engine looks like a name brand , but engine manufactures name never appears in item description. Many Toy rigs use CHEAP CHINA KNOCK OFF ENGINES, Made to look like honda, but are trash after one tank of gas, you have a Toy Rig.
If you see a toy rig drill rating for 600ft, but drill pipe is china plumbing pipe with 1" ID water flow , which is impossible to do, you have a Toy Rig.
If the drill bits are flat bar welded to a pipe nipple, you have a toy rig.
If mud pump is just a cheap china water pump with a aluminum housing that the sand will wear out in 20 minites you have a toy rig.
If the total toy rig complete with all the bells and whistles cost less than 200ft of real 2 3/8" drill pipe, you have a toy rig. ( real mayhew Jr drill pipe 1800.00 per 100ft ).
If your Wife says to you "Looks to Good to be true," she is right, you have a toy rig.
If the rig is for sale on ebay, good chance it is a toy rig.
If the manufacture does not rent or do in person hands on demo, it is a toy rig. Most of these guys only cash checks, the last place they want to be is have you see it drill in person. Thats why 99.99 % of toy rigs are sold and shipped Via the internet, they never do a live demo with real customers.
Do toy rigs work?
Only in perfect condtions. Do you have a perfect life and perfect land? If so try one.
Places when they do work: Soft sand, and water is only 100ft or less. Drilling over 100ft, you need to be a 1/2 space enginer and 1/2 Redneck welder Jerry rigger. Remember the shallow and soft sand drilling these rigs will work. The deeper you go and the harder the formations, the less chance you have, unless you buy a better portable rig.
WE do sell plans and parts for DIY toy rigs. I just want people to know what they need, so no one gets in over there head. I have known men who drilled 350ft with toy rigs, but only after re-welding, adding up grades and loosing 100s of ft of drill pipe before getting enough experience to finish the job. I do not want to crush your dream of drilling your own well. Just want to inform you. Drilling is not to hard, with good equipment, but shotie china junk is hard to do it with. Better portable drilling rigs with better pipe and swivel makes the job easy. Drilling with substandard toy rigs is like walking on rice paper. it can be done, but not without a few tares.
Make sure you're getting a real drilling rig. ( Say no to Toy rigs ) Remember if you don't get a real swivel, and real drill pipe you do not have a real drilling rig. You have what I call a toy rig. Toy rigs will have toy pipe and a toy swivel. What makes a toy swivel? The best definition for a toy rig ,I can give is a small or tiny water course swivel & pipe. Cheap China wheel bearing seals, not the good Chevron oil field packing. Also your swivel must have weight ratings. Your swivel weight rating will tell you how deep the drill will drill. If your drill pipe ways 50 pounds per 10 foot joint. And you have 10 joints, that equals 500 pounds per 100 feet. If you're swivel weight rating is 1000 pounds, then your swivel will be rated for 200 feet. This is why you want the largest swivel weight rating you can afford. And not just wait ratings you need a large water course flow. The larger the water course the more flow. The more flow the deeper and faster you can drill was less problems and not get your pipes stuck. Small water course equal slow drill speeds, slow penetration, and makes it easier to lose or get your pipe stuck What is the best drill pipe? Drill pipe is the second most important component on drilling rig other than the swivel. There's many different options and details that you can change, have are not have. Please do not skimp on the swivel or drill pipe. You must have a quality USA swivel and quality USA drill pipe if you expected drilling daily for money. The best thing about having a larger flow swivel and larger flow drill pipe, you can get by with less pump PSI and still get the same job done as small pipe and a larger mud pump.
For more info go to www.drillcat.com .
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